for the hell of it I thought I would go back and take a few random quotes of what the EA regime (paid off advertisers, biased beta testers, whined and dined racing community members) had to say back in Febuary 2005. Then I visited amazon.com to get the true story that can't be bought. I think the the results are obvious.Paid Advertising - EA SportsEA Sports has sewn up exclusive rights to develop and publish NASCAR-branded games until the end of the current decade, there's just one place for PC race fans to get their NASCAR fixes. Luckily for all concerned, that place is none too shabby. In its latest stock car opus, NASCAR SimRacing, EA Sports offers just about everything a racer could want (with the exception of a comprehensive printed manual) and works hard to satiate the thirsts of both the action/arcade crowd and the generally more demanding devotees of realistic/simulation competition. It has, for the most part, succeeded. - GamespotIt's been six years in coming, but EA has finally delivered the goods. They rewrote their physics engine, spent extra long months tweaking and tuning and testing after the console versions shipped. The extra time has paid off handsomely. EA's NASCAR SimRacing has earned its name, and in doing so, it has finally compelled me to free up the space on my hard drive that Papryus had occupied through years of EA's previous attempts to close the gap. EA has not only closed that gap, but they have exceeded Papyrus' efforts in many significant ways, such as the excellent physics model, featuring "drivable oversteer," third-party extensibility, and just about every option imaginable. - IGN
I can assure you that the game will be a great mixture of pappy and thunder. I have read through the forums and found some false statements. Trust me guys, the cars dont go airbourne and fly all over. The game will be more challenging that any other. There wont be any more crazy setups. Setups are very close to accually setting up a real car. Wow guys no one has a clue about the game and only negative comments get posted. I know the developers have busted their tails, working 18 hour days to bring you the best racing game you will ever buy. FYI - NASCAR SimRacing Beta TesterUnPaid Advertising Amazon.com Reviews - You can't buy this "support"If your looking for a realistic racing sim, don't buy this one. Even after the patch the computer cars often crash you and themselves durring yellow pace laps. The spotter gives misleading information about cars around you. This is an arcade style game in my opinion and not for the serious sim racer.Everything the 1 star reviews are saying is true. EA sports has taken a great game and screwed it up beyond words. Buy Nascar4 from Sierra, if you can still find it. It is head and shoulders above this.I know there are going to be some people that don't understand Nascar and say "look at how great the cars look, etc.." but it doesn't matter how pretty it is, if it has so many bugs in it that you can't even play it. If you spent your money on this, and you don't like it, you only have your self to blame. You have been warned!
Don't let the new title fool you this is nothing more then NASCAR Thunder 2004 tweaked and updated. The engine is exactly the same. This game was released as a beta and has not been playble online (as it was advertised it would be). EA has spent 4 months developing a patch that didn't fix anything other then add more problems.
The game was suppose to be the NASCAR Racing 2003 replacement. Unfornately EA spent all there money on marketing/hype lies instead of making a game that can actually be a replacement. Of all the racing leagues on the net. I don't think any of them switched to this. In fact NSR is pretty much a standing joke of the community and gives you a bad taste in your mouth just thinking about it.
EA had there one chance with SimRacing and they blew it as far as I'm concerned. I seriously doubt they will patch this thing up to anything playable (like they promised) and the next great patch will be NSR 2006. I for one doubt anyone is going to be fooled this time.
We didn't like crappy NASCAR Thunder before you bought out papyrus (EAs exclusive NASCAR deal) and we certainly don't like it afterwords!
In closing avoid NSR like the plague
This is an absolute joke of a game. If a car spins and you pass them to proceed to the yellow, you are disqualified for passing a car after the yellow comes out. If you stop behind the car that spun, you are disqualified for going too slow under caution. In other words, if any car spins in front of you, you are disqualified. This is true even with the 1.0.2.5 patch. This game is proof that EA cares about nothing but the bottom line. It is not playable.
It is time for EA to step up to the plate and fix the bugs in this game. EA is more concerned on making Nascar 2006 than fixing this one. They advertised a product that doesn't work with the gaming community and have cost a lot of people time and money. We "ALL" have been USED as Beta testers!!!! Don't waste your money on this crap. I will not buy another game that has EA anywhere on it.EA has failed once again.If you are looking for a realistic Nascar sim, then do not buy this game, or any other Nascar game from EA Sports for that matter.The graphics on this game are great, but the whole thing is just so unrealistic.I really thought it would be different this time but as always EA does not live up to my expectations.
Two words: it sucks!! I sold mine on eBay and got some money back. EA makes some good games and why they'd put out a stinker like this is beyond me.This game is not playable, EA Sports did not get the basics right. For instance random black flags, and ejections from races. The online code is horrible. They promised a patch, we got it. It did not fix much. I feel like I donated $40 to EA because I used it a few times and it was not playable. Save your money. Stick with NASCAR Racing 2003, it's light years ahead of EA's SimRacing 2005.
EA has proven they are BAD for gamers. Their exclusive licensing has done nothing but harm gaming for all gamers. This product is a prime example, its outrageously poor. Yes, the graphics aredisappointing, and the game physics lags well behind Papyrus's NASCAR Racing 2003. But what really takes the cake with this game is the bugginess, especially with yellow and black flag rules. Under a yellow flag, you follow the on-screen and spotter directions, and you will likely get black-flagged for passing someone you weren't supposed to. if you slow down to get in the right spot, you will be black flagged. If there is a wreck in front of you and you pass a wrecked car after the caution - black flag! I tried about 30 times and not ONCE did I finish a race without getting black flagged for some absurd reason. Papyrus figured out how to fix these problems years ago, but the EA monopoly doesn't have to, apparently. NASCAR SimRacing is an absolutely unplayable game and I have sent it back for a refund. Don't waste your time and money!
Please Don't Throw your money away. There are so many errors in the game, it is almost impossible to play till they come out with patches to fix the game. There is major issues with Black Flag and Yellow Flag rules. You can be black flaged for no reason. The Graphics are no better than Nascar 2003. If you don't believe me check out all the sim racing forums and see what they are saying about this game before you buy, and you will see that it is not worth the $40.Uninstalled this peice of garbage today. This game definately does not live up to the hype. Is it better than Thunder 04? maybe. Is it a realistic Nascar sim? NO. If your looking for a Sim Nascar Game buy anything made by Papyrus Racing Games. From Nascar 4 to Nascar 2003. They are not perfect but they are way closer than this. I really had my hopes up that EA would get it right this time but once again they fell way short. EA has exclusive rights to Nascar Sims now and since there is no competition they don't have to worry about making anything better. I've been racing online for 4 years and playing racing games for several years before that.
As adverttised on the box,the box promises online racing with 43 drivers racing on the same track.(when you race any more than 17 online the flags don't work at all ).The ranking system promised does'nt work either( ex. it takes away points for bump drafting at restrictor plate tracks). As far as leagues go, the league organizers have to call their own flags which most of the time causes a war with players because they missed somthing and which results with players quiting.I bought this game because I wanted a sim racing experience not the arcade kidde version you sold me for 40 bucks. Now everytime i see the EA games commercial i really laugh when they say its in the game because its not in this one.My name is BOSSDEI, President of DEI THUNDER ONLINE RACING. After 3 months of running a dedicated server for this game, it has issue's that need to be addressed. Our 100+ members are looking for an alternative game until they get it right. Not a future release of the game to fix it.
I'd give it 0 stars if I had the option